Comments on: Linq to SQL Wish List http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html still believes in coding to make dreams come true Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:17:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Kian http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-2850 Kian Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:41:55 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-2850 Keep a good work man!, Keep a good work man!,

]]> By: Kristofer http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-721 Kristofer Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:44:00 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-721 Hi Sidar, You may find my DBML refresh add-in for Visual Studio interesting - it adds the ability to re-sync the DBML against the database... ...described in more detail at http://blog.huagati.com/res/index.php/2008/07/07/tools-part-1 Hi Sidar,

You may find my DBML refresh add-in for Visual Studio interesting - it adds the ability to re-sync the DBML against the database… …described in more detail at http://blog.huagati.com/res/index.php/2008/07/07/tools-part-1

]]> By: Tony http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-687 Tony Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:36:29 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-687 I have implemented batching of LINQ to SQL queries at my blog at http://tonesdotnetblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/linq-to-sql-batches-and-multiple-results-without-stored-procedures-by-tony-wright/ I have implemented batching of LINQ to SQL queries at my blog at http://tonesdotnetblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/linq-to-sql-batches-and-multiple-results-without-stored-procedures-by-tony-wright/

]]> By: Sidar Ok http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-450 Sidar Ok Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:50:09 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-450 @liviu - Why do you think code generation is the problem, once a good merger & manager is provided ? @liviu - Why do you think code generation is the problem, once a good merger & manager is provided ?

]]> By: liviu http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-442 liviu Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:41:05 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-442 Hi, I think code generation is the problem. Maybe the whole plumbing code can be dynamically generated at runtime. Hi, I think code generation is the problem. Maybe the whole plumbing code can be dynamically generated at runtime.

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]]> By: Sidar Ok http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-224 Sidar Ok Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:13:01 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-224 I don't agree that it is for less advanced developers. You can argue that ObjectDataSource s, Datasets yada yada are, but concepts behind Linq to SQL can be fairly complex. Handling Concurrency issues, Serialization matters, Mapping Engines,Deferred Loading & Object tracking issues, Extensibility points - these aren't trivial tasks. Something that is easy and with not much friction to use doesn't make it a product that advanced users can not benefit. I agree though, it should stay simple to use as it is now. Do you think any of the wishes in this list will add this complexity ? (I also find EF & Conceptual Schema idea too intrusive, btw. I pretty much share the opinions of frans bouma on this subject : http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2008/05/19/why-use-the-entity-framework-yeah-why-exactly.aspx ) I don’t agree that it is for less advanced developers. You can argue that ObjectDataSource s, Datasets yada yada are, but concepts behind Linq to SQL can be fairly complex.

Handling Concurrency issues, Serialization matters, Mapping Engines,Deferred Loading & Object tracking issues, Extensibility points - these aren’t trivial tasks.

Something that is easy and with not much friction to use doesn’t make it a product that advanced users can not benefit. I agree though, it should stay simple to use as it is now. Do you think any of the wishes in this list will add this complexity ?

(I also find EF & Conceptual Schema idea too intrusive, btw. I pretty much share the opinions of frans bouma on this subject : http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2008/05/19/why-use-the-entity-framework-yeah-why-exactly.aspx )

]]> By: JV http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-223 JV Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:50:47 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-223 LINQ To SQL is indeed not being abandoned. It simply has another purpose and focus then the Entity Framework, where LINQ to SQL is for less advanced developers and for quick stuff and EF for the more advanced stuff. But neither you should expect fancy stuff from it which you can do with EF. In my opinion it should stay simple (multiple databases would be great though). LINQ To SQL is indeed not being abandoned. It simply has another purpose and focus then the Entity Framework, where LINQ to SQL is for less advanced developers and for quick stuff and EF for the more advanced stuff.

But neither you should expect fancy stuff from it which you can do with EF. In my opinion it should stay simple (multiple databases would be great though).

]]> By: Sidar Ok http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-219 Sidar Ok Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:30:32 +0000 http://www.sidarok.com/web/blog/content/2008/06/04/linq-to-sql-wish-list.html#comment-219 Mike, Damien Guard is a recently recruited guy to Linq to SQL team, so they are expanding the team. See his answer to this query on dotnetkicks: http://www.dotnetkicks.com/adonet/Is_the_ADO_NET_Team_Abandoning_LINQ_to_SQL Mike,

Damien Guard is a recently recruited guy to Linq to SQL team, so they are expanding the team. See his answer to this query on dotnetkicks:

http://www.dotnetkicks.com/adonet/Is_the_ADO_NET_Team_Abandoning_LINQ_to_SQL

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